Saturday, March 5, 2011

“A CIA-MOSSAD-MI6 scenario they had prepared for us”

4 03 2011

[Putin and Medvedev understand exactly what is going on in N. Africa and the Middle East, and who is behind it all, but knowing that "They" are behind the "sand-colored revolutions" and doing anything about it are not the same thing. If the CIA activates the N. Caucasus branch of its revolutionary madness to such a degree that it stands in the way of Kremlin plans, then Putin will do what he must. Read their words below from the Google translation and read between the lines.]

Он добавил, что последствия этих потрясений скажутся не только на Северном Кавказе, но и на всех странах, включая государства Европы

He added that the impact of these shocks will affect not only the North Caucasus, but in all countries, including European states

Putin hinted that the Revolution in the Maghreb countries are influenced from the outside: no need of such

Об этом он заявил на совместной пресс-конференции с председателем Еврокомиссии Жозе Мануэлом Баррозу по итогам пленарного заседания правительства России и комиссии ЕС в четверг в Брюсселе

He stated this at a joint press conference with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso on the results of the plenary session of the Russian government and the EU Commission in Brussels on Thursday

Global Look Press

Премьер-министр РФ Владимир Путин предостерег партнеров Москвы на Западе от попыток подстегивания извне демократических процессов в других странах в связи с событиями на севере Африки

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned Moscow’s partners in the West against attempts from without hastening democratic processes in other countries in connection with events in North Africa

Global Look Press

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned Moscow’s partners in the West against attempts from without hastening democratic processes in other countries in connection with events in North Africa. He stated this at a joint press conference with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso on the results of the plenary session of the Russian government and the EU Commission in Brussels on Thursday.

Putin responded affirmatively to the question of European journalists about the cause if he has any concern about events in the Middle East and their possible “echo” in Russia’s North Caucasus, but added that the impact of these shocks will affect not only the North Caucasus, but in all countries including European countries, ITAR-TASS.

“We are concerned, firstly, the number of casualties in the events in North Africa. We are concerned that despite the soothing theses about what is to come to power and the growing influence of radical groups in northern Africa, it is unlikely all did it bother us. And if that happens, it can not affect other parts of the world, including, of course, and the North Caucasus “, – stressed the head of the Russian government.

“You know – continued Putin – today we express concern about what is happening in Libya . Pay attention – and North African cell of al-Qaida, too, is concerned about what is happening in Libya. It’s just a coincidence? “

Putin recalled that the former leader of the Iranian revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini until his return to Tehran and the overthrow of the shah’s regime lived in Paris and the West’s policy of “inoculation of democracy in the Palestinian territories caused bloody clashes and resulted in a nasty power for many in the West, a radical organization Hamas .

“We need to let people decide their own fate and their future – said the Russian prime minister. – We must give them an opportunity in a natural way without any interference from outside to build their own destiny.” ”Society must move toward democratic institutions, to regulate itself, the device their own way, based on the internal processes of development”, – said Putin.

Recall the other day, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev condemned therevolution in the Arab world. In his view, this may lead to the disintegration of states and the rise to power of fanatics and extremists. At the same time, Medvedev pledged that Russia will not like that. ”Such a scenario they had prepared for us, and even more so now they will try to implement it – in any case, this scenario will not work” – the Russian leader said, without explaining who was meant by “they.”

Previously, we recall a number of foreign politicians, including U.S. Sen. John McCain and former British Ambassador to Russia Tony Brenton , had prophesied a repetition of the Kremlin Egyptian script, where mass protests led to the overthrow of the regime of President Hosni Mubarak, who ruled for almost 30 years.

Simultaneously, the First Vice Prime Minister Igor Sechin, in an interview withthe newspaper The Wall Street Journal called for an examination, “What did you do in Egypt, the top managers of Google, any manipulation of the energy of the people took place there.”

Related links:

Medvedev denounced the revolution in the Arab world and pledged that Russia is not held
/ / / / In Russian / / February 22, 2011

U.S. senator: the overthrow Mubarak – a warning to Putin and his clique of KGB “
/ / / / Around the world / / February 15, 2011

Former British ambassador warned Moscow: Russian paranoiacs threatens Egyptian script
/ / / / In Russian / / February 21, 2011


Under the category of fundamentalist organizations in Egypt, there are two main groups: the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) and the Salafi Group. The MB has been going through many internal pressures. On generational bases, it is divided into layers.

The first is the “elders,” who are now most of the members of the leading bodies. These are the guys who lived through the years of (Mehna) i.e. “The Tribulation” of the 60’s. They are generally conservative and emphasize the Islamization of the society versus participating in the political life of Egypt.

The second layer is what is usually described as the 70’s generation. These constitute the middle cadre of the organization (though some of them reached a higher rank). They are usually educated; adopt a mixture of the old doctrine of the organization and a more opened view. They are active in professional unions (lawyers, engineers, doctors, etc) and more popular than the traditional figures in the leadership.

A third layer was in the making before the recent uprising and gained many new members during and after the uprising. These new comers are still not fully indoctrinated; they are now making a lot of noise about the undemocratic nature of the MB’s organizational structure.

The other main Islamist (the Salafis) group is usually underestimated but it is effective and extremely backward. The Salafis did not participate in the uprising. Sheikh Ahmed Farid, one of the most prominent leaders of the group explained this position by saying that democracy is un-Islamic and it is also un-Islamic for boys and girls to demonstrate together. The group believe that Egyptian Copts should pay “Jizya” (that is an additional “capitation” tax paid by non Muslims who live in Muslim societies). This group worked closely with the Secret Police (State Security) during the years of Mubarak in order to confront the MBs. The Salafis believe that the MBs are degrading Islam by working in politics. Some voices tend to dismiss the possibility of this group achieving a good rate of growth in the next few years. While this possibility depends mainly on what will happen in general and in the economic sphere in particular, I think that this group should not be underestimated at all, especially in poor areas. As the road ahead will certainly go through many pumps and twists, a general atmosphere of heavy oppression and economic crisis may very well lead to a speedy advance of this group among desperate segments of the population. The group is relatively small compared to the MBs, nonetheless they are very active now among the bottom layers of the society with some participation of disillusioned ex-members of the MBs.

The communists are almost nonexistent, though there are some attempts to organize. The expected spheres of activities will be the new labor unions which are being formed now and in the universities. They still have a long way to go to have any real influence in the general configuration of the post Mubarak Egypt.

The irony now is that the most active group in this phase of events is the least organized one. These are the Egyptian liberals and democrats, who made a hole in the wall of fear and were stunned to see millions rush through. They have no organization, no leadership structure and no publications of their own other than the social networks on the internet.

Another effective group are the remains of the National Democratic Party (NDP) of Mubarak and his businessmen thugs. Their operations room was divided into two parts. The Shafiq government which has just been forced out, and the State Security forces which just collapsed after protesters burned their offices and the new government had to “freeze” their activities. These two blows may have weakened this camp. But it will be a big mistake to disregard this group. They have been built in over 30 years and they exist in villages, administration, media, universities and everywhere else. They are preparing to run in the next Parliamentary elections. If these elections are held in 3 or 4 months they may win a good portion of the next Parliament. This is why some very influential figures call now for postponing the elections to perhaps next year.

The Supreme Military Council (SMC) which runs the country now does not want to remain in power for long. These 19 Generals have two objectives: to preserve the interests of the military in any future regime and to hand the country to a regime that can provide stability. The “interests” of the military will be preserved in any new regime for the foreseeable future. But the second objective is a bit tricky. Stability can be achieved through a combination of a representative political structure which allows political forces to exercise their rights and implement the rule of law and a comprehensive development plan.

Egyptians now have a good idea about the political system they want, but he economic development plan is still subject to debate. Until now, and due to the influence of the usual economic school of thoughts, there is no plan. A group of young and not very young is doing a good job now in trying to revive Dr Farouq Albaz ideas of a development corridor in the western desert. Al Baz is a NASA scientist and a science professor in Boston. He is becoming very popular now in Egypt. A healthy sign that reveals the thirst of Egyptians for real development.

What will happen next?. The situation is very fluid. But what will happen will be certainly better than what was happening. Things are moving towards a “Turkish Model”. But any model will be meaningless without comprehensive economic development in Egypt. As for the fear that is being marketed in the international media that the MBs are coming, I will just say that they have always been there. They were very active side by side with the Mubarak regime. This regime was unsustainable. Any other similar regime will be unsustainable as well. It is foolish to put the choice in the narrow equation of “either another Mubarak or the MBs”. Mubarak did not stop the growth of the organization. The fight in Egypt has just begun. In similar fights during the 40’s the MBs always lost. They will eventually loose this time as well. It will take time but this is the only way to defeat their line of thinking. But this fight will be miserably lost if its contents are debates and speeches. The only content that can play the decisive role in defeating all these backward ideas is a vast economic development in this corner of the world.....and it ain't coming anytime soon....Hence the grand design of the PNAC KILLERS will continue unabated of creating hundreds of Tribes with Flags from MENA to EURASIA, India and China included by 2015.....

Remember the US-Iran Contra Scandal back in the 1980s? On the one hand the Reagan administration was threatening all sorts and on the other it was conducting secret arms deals with them.

These are the realities of politics, sadly. The greater conspiracy is that the US and UK trade freely with these countries and will do their best to keep these regimes in power as long as they are willing to do business with the West. Hague and Cameron may be outwardly lending their support to the protesters but that didn't stop them sending in an SAS combat team to spy on the rebels. The UK and Britain will be watching events closely. They need to know which way the wind is blowing before committing themselves. They have to ensure as far as possible that any opposing regime will be willing to honor existing contracts and be willing to continue trade – and that’s a generous estimate of their intentions – the better money is on them supporting the Gaddafi regime with as much intelligence gathering assistance as resources permit.

There was no other reason for the SAS and the Mi6 officer to enter the region by stealth. This wasn’t a diplomatic mission – although there’s a remote chance it might have been the precursor to one.

For some reason The House of Wisdom (or is that Gnosis?) would have us think we don’t support the likes of Gaddafi. To be honest though, : you don’t change regions like this by hoying bombs from the outside, you change the economic fabrics of it....using USAID/CIA, NED, Freedom House/CIA....and a few other bags of tricks.....

Kaddafi - at least for the moment - is a safer option. In terms of the bigger picture at least.
Libya as the new Kosovo....

I find very interesting about Libya:

* Lord Jacob Rothschild served on the board of LIA (Libyan Investment Authority)...

* Saif Khadafy is involved in a joint investment venture with Jacob and Nathaniel Rothschild in Montenegro...

* Libya's currency is printed in the UK...

IMHO opinion we very obviously have the Rothschild's, CIA/MOSSAD/MI6...... pulling the strings of both sides of this bloody conflict and, consequently, whatever the outcome of it, they will always usual since the 1800s.....